Forest BB

beev

did you try ace?
http://www.acecarandvanhire.co.uk/

they are close to the forest, they are a family run business, and they were quite nice to me when i used them and not too expensive either.

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Cheque for £30 sent to Chandra

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as some of you probably know, the forest choir is taking a trip out to roslin chapel to do some singing and look for the holy grail.

is anyone interested in photographing this event?

the date will be march 11th, in the evening.

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I think it's covered by this part: "coverage up to the value of £100,000 is extended to all audio/visual Equipment either belonging to You or held in trust for the purposes of holding live performances, DJ sets, regular cinema nights, and wicked parties. Any such Equipment may be shared with communi...

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We are insured as a "restaurant and takeaway". The policy does cover us for: "Stock in Trade belonging to You or held in trust or on commission by You or for which You are responsible whilst contained in the Premises" "Exhibition cover increased to £5,000 any one exhibition not exceeding 7 days" "Pa...

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installing wordpress is no problem. but is there a plan for making it look cool? can a blog ever look good enough for our site? i need convincing.

milk's concept of blending joomla with wp is interesting, no?

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there are currently no cool skins for phpbb3. there is the standard one, which is crappy, and the only other one currently available is an imitation of this here current one what you're presently looking at. it's called subsilver2 and i'd say it's useable, but could probably be improved. i'll look i...

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good overall analysis. i agree with most. i wouldn't rush to upgrade joomla. as you say, it is a big job and possibly a waste of time if we are going to move onto something different soon. am i right in thinking this upgrade is particularly problematic because our joomla has been quite heavily custo...

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i think we should compensate like a muthafukka, whatever that means. people who clean often are heroes!

hey danny, remember the first shift we worked in this bristo building? we stayed till about 3am cleaning the ming from the kitchen. them was good days, them was...

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You can buy soda crystals for putting down drains to help clear them. They are very cheap. I think Semi-Chem has them.

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I thought we were opting for leather as it can be kept clean.

Has anyone considered freecycle? It's free after all. All you need is transport. I've used it to get couches for forest in the past.

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consistency has never been a constant

the people will never not be confused

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great stuff!

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i've increased the attachment quota from 150 MB to unlimited

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is there room for a bit of experimentation here? can alex try his ideas? it can feel a bit like creativity is held in check by rules and a need for people with different outlooks to agree on everything. i know it must sound sad, me harping on about the past, but there was a time when people used to ...

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a sign should do the trick. some people just don't realise things that you would think are glaringly obvious.

YES TO:
useful stuff
clean stuff

NO TO:
useless crap
dirty things/clothes
anything that smells

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Trying to keep the volunteers and customers happy. dude, this is not part of your job. people are responsible for their own happiness! Running about the building trying to find people who are these people? let them come to you! Keeping a constant eye on dodgy people when nm-ing i always found it be...

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i realise this topic has strayed way off topic. and that's cool because the original topic was crap (sorry alex!) i don't like this blocking vibe. in a way, people always had the power to block if they were really determined, but they generally didn't exercise it. speaking for myself, there's been q...

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Oh, also I was stating my view that what some people think makes us work better, others like me think the opposite. It is valid view. The saddest thing is that we we will never reach consensus on this.

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I get what you're saying Bill, but when I was talking about lessons learned in the past I was actually referring to a time before you were involved in the forest. So in that sense I was def not trying to speak on your behalf. For as long as I have been involved and, I believe, before i was involved,...

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Chombee: with respect, we all know already what consensus decision-making is, including how and why it is supposed to work. But at the forest we have always found that complete, full-on consensus decision-making in the way that you describe is too much to expect. We all agree that it is kind of an i...

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pet-trainer?

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maybe if we have the cleaner there will be more time in the mornings and we can get more customers and recoup the money we have to pay that poor untouchable. and we will be cleaner too! just think, it will be amazing

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yup, interminable debate is definitely our specialty!

we are paying a pet-trainer guy, right? why aren't we doing that job ourselves, voluntarily?

if you think windows are easy, please clean them often. thanks. same goes for the toilets. etc.

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We had a wordpress blog tacked onto the site, but it is long gone. I think wp is very smooth to use and easy to look at, tho I'm not sure if it is up to giving us a fully functional site. Wp makes it easy to publish your thoughts in a matter of seconds, but is it up to hosting all our media stuff, a...

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Also, while I realise we may be overspending on things like wages & tax, I think the best time for a review of our money stuff is after we get a new treasurer who has some fresh enthusiasm for the role. In the meantime, how about we take on a cleaner for a trial period of maybe 3 months. That way we...

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Oh god Shannon please no! We are def suffering from too much talk and no action. We keep on putting things off until we have a meeting about it, then it gets discussed for ages and nothing gets done until another meeting, and so it goes on. We keep talking things to death. It feels like the forest h...

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Is it realistic to have a cleaner work 7 days a week? We all need to sleep in occasionally! I was thinking maybe day off on Mon & Thurs. Obviously not best for us to give days off at the weekend. 2 hrs a day, 5 days a week should be enough. Cleaning gets awful quick when you do it regular like.

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And I don't think paying someone a couple of hours/week to clean it would get rid of the problem either. Of course it would get rid of the problem. Maybe not so much in the kitchen, but everywhere else would be cleaned regularly (including the toilets), the recycling would be done, fresh water for ...

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This seems like an excellent and overdue discussion. My stuff, for what it is worth: The sign is cool. Food inconsistencey puts me right off. I hardly ever eat at forest these days as it just seems too dangerous for someone with allergies. Unfortunately this one may never be fixed as volunteers are ...

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Andy makes some good points. I 've been out to Rubha Phoil (next door) and it's worth pointing out a couple of things. Sandy (who owns the place) struggles money-wise and frequently gets taken advantage of by nutters who hang around her place because it is alternative and open/accessible. This is ob...

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you mean we're not bored to death already?

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greetings from ny, the best city in the world! i used to have one of these things (at one point i had 2!) removing engine is a big job and shouldn't be attempted without the proper gear (which only a garage will have). john forbes on meadow lane might do it for free if you donate the engine to him. ...

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Unless it is squeezed through the narrow gap in the glass, I don't see how anything can get stolen from the shop under the current system. Anything that's gone, we can assume it is sold and the money gone in the till. This is fine as long as access to the key is limited to responsible peoples. Artis...

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Yes if you want to bring some when you come for the sofa that would be good! I'd say a maximum of 10. Also, might be good if they are in some kind of protective box.

I could take a few GH books as well, about 6 max.

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Better get me soon if I am to take records. I am away the next 4 days, then back for 3, then I go to ny.

How many would be going?

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From what I've seen, the 'teddy bear' costume I linked to above is about the nearest we're gonna get to the Mark Wallinger . It's not exactly a match. I've phoned around a few more costume shops. Most of them are closed already, or not answering the phone. There's one in Bathgate that has a selectio...

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Yes, but NMs should be trained to do this as well.

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Ras...?

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We should def go for the laser. Either rent or buy, I don't mind. Two buyable bear costumes... Teddy bear: http://www.acefancydress.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=7203 Polar bear: http://www.acefancydress.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=7204 Both £70. This is as cheap as they get. Costume Ha ...

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Checking is worse because that way people are being watched whether they are fucking around or not. With cameras, you only get watched if you did something wrong.

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Imho, people persistently doing what they're not supposed to do is rarely down to their ignorance of the rules. They know the rules and disagree with them, and are determined to do what they want regardless.

Therefore: with these cunts a sign will make no difference. They have to be prevented.

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I'm not that into it. I don't think we should be defining what people are supposed to use the net for. (That doesn't mean I'm against censoring certain sites if it makes our lives easier!)

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... set it up somewhere out of view in the gold room, with no keyboard or mouse attached, and just hooked up to a flatscreen mounted to the wall, just non-interactively displaying info.... Adding a new page to the screen info could be made really easy though, if it was done over the network. Just a...

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we could mount the two flatscreens on the wall for displaying art and info...

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it doesn't even need to be against the wall. just put the one in the window on a table so you have to stand up to use it.

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I agree that its more important to have an inviting atmosphere than to try to get everyone online at once. Standing only is good. Standing in the main room even better if there is a space. This is a problem that's been going on for toooooooo long. And while I recognise that there will always be peop...

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No drinking behind the sound desk??? Wait a minute!! No drinks ON the sound desk, that is ok. But no drinking at all behind the sound desk?? That's the type of shit that does make me think of a police state! You have to avoid penalising everybody for the idiocy of a few. There are people responsible...

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It's not like there's a shortage of Poles who can translate. Email it to Kasia and I'm sure she would oblige. Her address is... somewhere.

Or for a comedy version, send it to Szymon!

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Give it a spin!

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