Golden Hour Returns to Forest - need approval

ravanwin · **Posted:** Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:25 pm

Hiya,

I'd like to do a Christmas Golden Hour. It will be December. It will be the 16th. A Sunday.

Ideally - the 16th and 17th will be days of golden fun. Old friends and new.

I envision:

A Dai / Dan bin raking contest / free shop. Save your money!

A Mulled Wine day / FuckMarryKill Day

And a lovely and warm Golden Hour. With carols and things like that.

Questions:

* Any objections?

* Can we get the cafe open on a sunday night?

* Dai - you game? I'll ask Gorman.

I'll arrange the rest but it as I'll be in London most the month, I'll need some help in setting up etc but it should be cozy and fun.

Say yes, forest? x

Stephen · **Joined:** Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:00 pm **Posts:** 741

Margarida · **Joined:** Thu Mar 03, 2011 2:36 pm **Posts:** 576

Yesyesyes.

Yes, we can get the café open on a Sunday night, just a matter of making sure we'll have NM and vollies. The December rota is going up this week (and we're all signing up, right?

)

katymac · **Joined:** Mon Jan 03, 2011 7:38 pm **Posts:** 369

HGiles · **Joined:** Sat Apr 10, 2010 2:21 pm **Posts:** 1166

Bonus points.

Keni · **Joined:** Sun Aug 01, 2010 4:30 pm **Posts:** 1115

Margarida wrote:

The December rota is going up this week (and we're all signing up, right?

)

Of course. Sure, all us FATties know how vital it is we have enough NMs signed up otherwise we have to close at night or force KMs to work extremely long hours. I wouldn't want to see that happen.

ravanwin · **Posted:** Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:49 pm

If, for some impossible reason, we don't have enough staff. I will live out my dream of working / hosting simultaneously. I have managed this only once. I would relish the challenge but am optimistic it will not be required. x

Mister C · **Joined:** Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:38 pm **Posts:** 134

Oh boy oh boy

Yes I will NM the evening it would be an honour. Also if there's anything else I can help on let me know

Keni · **Joined:** Sun Aug 01, 2010 4:30 pm **Posts:** 1115

One minor point. Given we have a serial complainer re noise & how GH normally goes, is it worth having it somewhere else, say Central Hall or Old St Paul's? Just an idea.

billy_liar · **Posted:** Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:02 am

He's not been down for aaaaaages, and we've had many noisy nights. Way noisy.

Keni · **Joined:** Sun Aug 01, 2010 4:30 pm **Posts:** 1115

Given we are currently dealing with a Change of Use complaint re using LP as an entertainment venue and the resulting noise disturbance, plus the possibility of a serial complainant (see my latest in the Lauriston place thread), I'd say it is worth playing clever for once & avoiding a stooshie. What do others think? Causing more problems re noise and music now may make our case re not applying for Change of Use harder, likewise if we do apply and have a string of complainst hanging out the back of our trews.

martinmckenna · **Posted:** Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:09 pm

It can be golden without being noisy,

martin

gaia · **Joined:** Sun Jul 04, 2010 4:04 pm **Posts:** 294

Yep, just because the guy hasn't complained in a while it doesn't mean that he's happy with the level of noise, maybe he's just waiting for somebody to do something about his other complaints.
Acoustic GH?

HGiles · **Joined:** Sat Apr 10, 2010 2:21 pm **Posts:** 1166

We need a basic decision on what we're doing about events in general, rather than just thinking about GH. Either always acoustic or not, and if we go all acoustic then a plan for fixing the soundproofing.

Margarida · **Joined:** Thu Mar 03, 2011 2:36 pm **Posts:** 576

I'm sure the FAT minutes are going up soon but we did agree on no more amplified events until we soundproof the space.

ravanwin · **Posted:** Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:17 pm

We'll play light amplified acoustic, I think. And no drums or anything.

Also, I don't wanna do it in st pauls etc. but thanks for thinking of those options.

x

HGiles · **Joined:** Sat Apr 10, 2010 2:21 pm **Posts:** 1166

ravanwin wrote:

We'll play light amplified acoustic, I think. And no drums or anything.

Also, I don't wanna do it in st pauls etc. but thanks for thinking of those options.

x

Yeh we want it in Forest fo sho.

So now we have an extra motivation to push forward on the soundproofing.

simone · **Joined:** Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:47 am **Posts:** 896

boo
i'll be away
sniff
enjoy

Keni · **Joined:** Sun Aug 01, 2010 4:30 pm **Posts:** 1115

HGiles wrote:

ravanwin wrote:

We'll play light amplified acoustic, I think. And no drums or anything.

Also, I don't wanna do it in st pauls etc. but thanks for thinking of those options.

x

Yeh we want it in Forest fo sho.

So now we have an extra motivation to push forward on the soundproofing.

The return of Golden Hour - for those times when a Council enforcement notice & the non-renewal of your lease is not enough. Grin.

Do we get to put you in the middle of a drunken dancing circle again Harry?

Margarida · **Joined:** Thu Mar 03, 2011 2:36 pm **Posts:** 576

ravanwin wrote:

We'll play light amplified acoustic, I think. And no drums or anything.

Also, I don't wanna do it in st pauls etc. but thanks for thinking of those options.

x

I guess this is something for the Events and Sound Working Groups but it might be a good idea to try to arrange the decibel meter in the café in time for this.

katymac · **Joined:** Mon Jan 03, 2011 7:38 pm **Posts:** 369

Margarida wrote:

I guess this is something for the Events and Sound Working Groups but it might be a good idea to try to arrange the decibel meter in the café in time for this.

yes please

HGiles · **Joined:** Sat Apr 10, 2010 2:21 pm **Posts:** 1166

Does "no amplified" go for words as well, or are they OK, sound-wise? I ask for the Inky mic next week.

Keni · **Joined:** Sun Aug 01, 2010 4:30 pm **Posts:** 1115

Margarida wrote:

I guess this is something for the Events and Sound Working Groups but it might be a good idea to try to arrange the decibel meter in the café in time for this.

HGiles wrote:

Does "no amplified" go for words as well, or are they OK, sound-wise? I ask for the Inky mic next week.

The key point is re noise is that an individual is not able to hear amplified music from nearby pubs and clubs in their home, so there is no set volume in LP that we can go up to. That's why we've asked him to meet and discuss. Should he come in at any point, please take his phone number and I'll try again to arrange a meeting with him.

Mister C · **Joined:** Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:38 pm **Posts:** 134

On sunday we had amplified music, but it was pretty low key. I don't think amplification necessarily means bringing the roof down. All the same lets get the decibel meter sorted and have a dialogue with our friend upstairs. Are there any quick fixes we can put in place before then to sort out the sound eg heavy curtains for those big, big windows (which would also keep the heat in).

With regards to the mic for Inky fingers, for a place the size of the forest cafe, do we need one?

Cheers

Iain

swithun · **Joined:** Wed Mar 29, 2006 11:24 am **Posts:** 2450

I suspect Harry doesn't. But other people will need a mic for their voices.

HGiles · **Joined:** Sat Apr 10, 2010 2:21 pm **Posts:** 1166

swithun wrote:

I suspect Harry doesn't. But other people will need a mic for their voices.

Yeah, it's totally crucial for unpractised open micers -- and even for practised ones who don't have my frankly freakishly large lung capacity.

martinmckenna · **Posted:** Fri Nov 23, 2012 2:23 pm

Yo

Its does seems a blanket ban on amplification is unworkable. For me, it may create a mono culture of acoustic troubadour's, not great ! .

I reckon if the sound team can use their discretion on what the volume is could be a workable solution. Also maybe restricting after a certain time.

martin

katymac · **Joined:** Mon Jan 03, 2011 7:38 pm **Posts:** 369

I am hoping this is temporary, on the basis that we will be soundproofing and that will allow it to be louder again without disturbing upstairs. I still think we need to get the decibel metre and agree a top limit - different people could have very different ideas of what is and isn't going to disturb. We should perhaps try another approach to the neighbour who complained - getting the meter would be a good occasion to do this. If we can't get him to discuss it, we could get a supportive neighbour to help us figure out the limit, though obviously the sound travels differently to different flats, but at least we could then genuinely feel and say we have done everything we can. Also agree that a set time restriction would be fair and reasonable.

I know basically nothing about sound, but a quick search tells me Maplin has is a mini decibel meter for £30 which says it's suitable for various environments including pubs and clubs
http://www.maplin.co.uk/mini-sound-level-meter-226470

If this seems suitable, I am quite happy to go buy it as soon as I get the go-ahead.

RachelMcCrum · **Joined:** Fri Nov 19, 2010 5:29 pm **Posts:** 423

yes.

xx

martinmckenna · **Posted:** Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:46 pm

Hello

Our supportive Councillor Melanie Main. Give us suggestion that council noise team can act as mediators in situations like this. This is certainly something we should do, she going to mail Keni on how we start this process.

martin

Mister C · **Joined:** Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:38 pm **Posts:** 134

Hey Katy

Did you get the decibel meter?

Iain

katymac · **Joined:** Mon Jan 03, 2011 7:38 pm **Posts:** 369

ordered it, I should be able collect it tomorrow x

Mister C · **Joined:** Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:38 pm **Posts:** 134

Great stuff!!

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