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Reconnaisance Mission #1: North Bridge to Newington Road

Postby Martin » Tue May 08, 2007 12:09 am

I went for a walk earlier this evening from North Bridge down through Nicholson Street and Clerk Street to Newington Road, noting down every unused shopfront in sight on the way.

I'm going to repeat this for some other areas. My aim here is not just to look for places we would definitely be interested in, but also to help build up our picture of the market and where we should be watching, as places are likely to come and go before we are ready to move.

Photos from this run are here: http://void.printf.net/~martin/photos/forest-recon-1/

There are a lot of boarded up places along here, many have been empty for a while, and a lot of the buildings are pretty run down. Also especially further south there are a lot of strange little shops that can't possibly get much business, so the rents are probably pretty cheap.

A few examples:

This is up near the Tron:



Agent is Colliers CRE, but I can't find it on their .

De Niros is ...



...but here's the above mentioned ex-pub, just round the corner for £12K.



Big shop nextdoor to Noor, .


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Postby dan » Tue May 08, 2007 10:11 am

Great work Martin!!! I've always quite liked that one up by the tron, it's labarynthine

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Postby thehemulen » Tue May 08, 2007 11:04 am

think 4rest should move to berlin! : )

the church by susies/uni - d'you mean the one opposite human binn? if so, thats been empty for YEARS

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Postby Martin » Tue May 08, 2007 11:12 am

Man, it's true. It amazes me what the c-base and CCC can afford to have over there.

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Postby Martin » Tue May 08, 2007 11:17 am

Should we call about the one by the Tron? What do we say? I presume we intend to stay in Bristo Place till the end of August.

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Postby bill » Tue May 08, 2007 11:52 am

yeah lets go check it out?

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Postby chombee » Tue May 08, 2007 12:16 pm

Couldn't find it on their website, but I saw the collierscre.com have a shopfront on St Mary's Street (off The Royal Mile/Pleasance), to lease, 240 7500.

Not sure we'd want it though, it's near the Cowgate centre and territorial army (or whatever).

I'm busy today, but my mobile is:

[REMOVED]. Ask for my mobile number if you see me, I can help with checking out premises.

if people want to text me about going to visit places. Can do weekdays if I know about it the day before usually, nn the weekends I am free.

What do people think about the Holyrood Tavern? It's still up for lease as far as I know.
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Postby dan » Tue May 08, 2007 12:36 pm

Had an interesting chat with the Buddhists today. Looks like the offers for the Itralian Consul closed on Feb 3rd 2006. They put one in which is still being considered. They are very hopeful about getting it. They also heavily suggested that Holyrood Tavern would be good. I think it would definately worth having a look at, but can't find who's selling it.
There's another one which looks like it could be good on St Mary's St, up for sale, £250 big ones
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Postby chombee » Tue May 08, 2007 1:06 pm

So there are two places on St. Mary's, one apparently to rent, one to buy. Dan's is not the same one I saw. Dan's looks better. Both are worryingly close to crazy people outlets.

For Holyrood Tavern contact Bruce and Co: http://www.bruceandco.co.uk/bruce/prope ... opid=21228

lease for sale for £15,000 (offers over). Would be amazing I think, if the deal is right. I'd be happy to give them a call tomorrow, if no one beats me to it.

What do we say to these type of people when we call them?

* Do we say we're from the forest cafe on Bristo Place?
* And then just ask to get a look around, and find out more about the price?

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Postby beev » Tue May 08, 2007 1:42 pm

Here are more details for Holyrood Tavern...
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Postby Martin » Tue May 08, 2007 1:52 pm

So they're selling the business, not re-letting the space. The rent is £20K, which makes more sense.

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Postby dan » Tue May 08, 2007 2:11 pm

but what does that mean? would Punch Taverns have a stranglehold on what we do then? Is this: http://216.139.227.101/interactive/pub2006/ what they'd want us to be like?

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Postby Martin » Tue May 08, 2007 2:38 pm

Possibly. In any case, we just want to rent a building, not buy a pub business.

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Postby swithun » Tue May 08, 2007 4:06 pm

The big furnishing shop next to Noor is nice - big windows at the back, and a side room at the front. But I suppose it is a big steep for the space on offer. Shame - it is only a minute from my house.

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Postby lucky » Tue May 08, 2007 4:49 pm

I get a nice feeling from the 12k place. Maybe we should be smaller.
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Postby bill » Thu May 10, 2007 12:26 pm

it would!

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Postby Martin » Thu May 10, 2007 12:35 pm

I don't think the forest is in any position to take out a decades-long mortgage. I thought this conclusion had already been reached.

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Postby bill » Thu May 10, 2007 1:43 pm

i thought that definately we can't pay a morgaga on somethimng which is worth 700,000 but less maybe we can? and it was more the deposit that we couldn't afford no?

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Postby Martin » Thu May 10, 2007 2:00 pm

The problem is not just the money, it's getting the mortgage. No bank is going to give us one without a thorough business plan and multiple years of audited accounts, which we don't have.

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Postby dan » Thu May 10, 2007 2:02 pm

hey no, we've been in touch with Triodos, a mortgage is a possibility...

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Postby Shannon » Thu May 10, 2007 2:10 pm

But it's true that we need a business plan...and probably at least one year of audited accounts. But I think a smaller building is doable...would take time, though.

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Postby beev » Mon Jul 02, 2007 11:00 pm

Just to give an idea of what else is on the market in our little corner of town...
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and...
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