Forest BB

Ok, I still have enthusiasm and time for making this happen. Anyone else interested in getting involved?

I propose the 26th and 27th of July so as to have alot of time to put together something good.

not sure what the best approach would be- ideally the event would be more than just a series of stalls selling zines etc. and there would be events, workshops and stuff at the time as well. Does anyone have any ideas for cool stuff to put on or want to run a zine workshop of some kind?

Perhaps the London Zine Fair goers could feedback elements of the fair they thought were good and elements that were crap?

I aim to get in touch with varied peoples in relation to this to gauge initial enthusiasm/interest then, see what email lists can be hijacked to send round a call for submissions or similar. Please give me details of people you think would like to be involved/would be good to involve.

What will be needed to host a decent zine fair? tables is the main thing i can think of which i imagine would require rental unless the forest has a secret stash. I also aim to put together a proposal for a forest grant once i have a better idea of costs.


thoughts anybody?

my thoughts are this is a wicked endeavour and I'm on board.
i'm out of town.
fix a date and book the space.
then we will extend the invites.

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aye - i recomend fixing a date. writing a blurb about it and posting it all over the place. make posters etc.

not sure what kind of talks etc would be good but somone must have an idea.

talk to the One o'clock Gun. They are good.
r

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is their not some kind of embittered animosity between 1ocg and cia nights tho?


don't want to get them in if there's to be a scuffle.

ha ha! cia is civil.

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I am in. Not a lot of time now, but will help in the future. Just before the festival sounds like a good time to me. I have some contacts too...

I put all the london zines in the library with ref stickers. Check them out for email addresses of good peoples. x

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maybe speak to Elaine at Word Power and AK Press in Leith and ACE as well? Nice one, it sounds like a great event!
d x

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Friday 25th and Saturday 26th July 12-5 booked...

ok, so i've contacted some folk about this...

analogue want a stall but need to get cover for the shop.
Sandy Meets and Malcy duff are interested and a couple of others. Magda also said that she spoke to some people at Prestonpandemonium who were interested.

no reply form Word Power, AK press, 1 oclock gun or Embassy- perhaps if people who know the people involved contact them they would be more interested....

i;m workign on a flyer that should be ready soon...

Still not sure what to do about tables tho- can anyone think of any free alternatives to hirinbg? also how many tables do we aim to get?

also need more cool ideas for events etc- M\lcy Duf wants to do an image sound thing maybe...

I know the people at Word Power and AK. I can do that.

Also, Olivier is wanting to do a bazaar type thing with stuff from the shop and other artists/not-for-profits. I thought it might work well alongside the zine fair and increase the traffic coming through. What do people think?

in the hall you mean or in the shop?

In the hall. I reckon there's space for it to happen alongside the zine fair. What do you think?

no doubt there will be space for other shop/nfp stuff but i have to confess i'd rather try to fill as much of the hall as possible with zine fair.

i think it would be better to focus on zines and related stuff . rather than diluting the event with other concerns .

Obviously it would be best if we could fill the whole place with zine stalls, but I think it would be better to have a full hall than a half empty hall.

Shall I tell Olivier he needs to pick another date? Or should I see how many stalls he realistically thinks he will fill?

varient has a zines page. someone seek them out?
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I say Lets be ambitious and book out the whole hall for the zine fair and have the other shop stuff on another date.

I understand the reservations but i agree with martin, the event will be better without other concerns.

with a bit of energy, work and promotion it will be a quality event!

having said that poster still on its way, also i think project slogan are also in for a stall.

nine from the skinny is into it. find her details on the skinny lgtb page i reckon.
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I know nine. Should I contact her or is someone on it?

Do we need a meeting or are we cool organising by bb? It would be good to get publicity sorted soon...

I haven't been in touch with Nine yet, so if you know her that would be good.

I will send a mail the way of Varient.

I could certainly agree to meet at some point if there is sufficient interest in meeting. Yes we need to get the publicity on the move i've been crap so far at getting this poster done- but soon, soon, i gots an image but need to add the text.

perhaps it would be an idea also to make a facebook group? and maybe <ahem>myspace</ahem>

Magda says she was speaking to dan about the possibility of the university settlement loaning us some tables for the event but it looks liek we would have to transport them from Livingston- have pmed Dan about this.

- have pmed you back x

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The guy who writes the reviews for Variant is a fantastic fellow named Mark Pawson.
His website can be found here
http://www.mpawson.demon.co.uk/
He's an obsessionist extraordinaire and one of my few heroes as he would always chuck in every manner of odd extras included with an order.
High weirdness by mail indeed.
Make sure the event gets added here
http://www.mpawson.demon.co.uk/whatson.html

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We need to advertise the event, but also advertise that we're looking for people to hold stalls. We probably don't need a meeting for this, but we need someone to do it...

here is a poster.

i have the weekend off so i will distributing some then.

triple post!

if someone could stick some about the forest, i would be grateful, i can forward in another file format if necessary.

Lookin' good. I'll be out today contacting the people I said. Will stick some up centrally.

Grand stuff.
I'll seek out some potentials.
Post up any replies.
Is there any charge or other crucial info I should be passing along?

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nope, no charge or commission.

would be good to try and herangue some cool events of some kind out of people tho.

Events as in workshops? Should we try and get some sort of gig on Saturday night?

Was London one day or two?

London - just one day.
Workshops - yes - London had some amazing ones listed.
Gig - would be good - I see Jeffrey Lewis has a big gap in his tour schedule.
http://thejeffreylewissite.com/Upcoming-Shows.html

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AK Press are in. They are having a think on other folks who might want in.

Tried Elaine at Word Power. Should be in touch with her tomorrow.

Nine has a zine called 'If destroyed still true' and would like a stall. Is this cool? I think London was distros only, but we can open it up a little yes/no?

My friend Lucy has got boxes of stuff she has been trying to sort out for ages. She's aiming for the event and would like a stall.

Another friend Joey has a small distro. Still trying to get in touch with him.

I printed off 20 A4 posters and left a few in the cabinet in the action room.

I've mailed Mark Pawson and also sent out a cheeky chance toward Jeffrey Lewis management.

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I heart Jeffrey.

Is there a copy of the London program online?

Do we have any budget for this?

From Alex: Nick called today and said there are tables in Livingstone ready for collection. He doesn't know who the contact is at Forest. Is this a zine fair thing?

yes I called Livingstone and it's fine to pick up tables. I pmed Stephen with the details already x x

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nice poster!

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Maybe it could work? But it will be a kaleidoscopic blend of mysterious shadows and rainbow hued-dreams seen through compassionate tears.

I phoned steve of recycle scotland re: tables and left a message but he didn't get back to me yet. will phone back.

when do we need to pick them up by do you know? cos i'd imagine storage would be a problem seeing as the fair itself isn't for a month or so yet.

also, no budget arranged as of yet, was going to apply for a grant if it was necessary but if the tables are for free then we might not need much fuinding....

I went to see Elaine at Word Power yesterday. They're away the 25-26th but might give a box of stuff to AK on their behalf. Elaine will try to think of contacts, but doesn't know much about the zine scene and seems to think it's mainly southern based. Are we interested in the book binding workshop usually held at the radical bookfair? I could get a contact for that.

I talked to my friend Joey last night. He lives in Edinburgh and is starting a small distro. Unfortunately, he's out of town in July. He's gutted because he was thinking about coming us to pitch the idea of a zine symposium. But, he's going to send me a bunch of contacts.

He thinks a lot of the zine community from down south will come up for the event if given notice. The community is small and London is the only regular event in the UK. Plus, Forest is an awesome venue, which will encourage people to come. He will take posters to Brighton for us.

Ideas for workshops:

- screenprinting (will the room be ready?)
- 2 day zine project in the action room
- life drawing
- how to work a photocopier (sometimes surprisingly difficult...)
- radical history tour of Edinburgh
- films in the cafe or elsewhere

I've sent info to Bugpowder, a newsgroup for small press people in the UK, to a small press comics newsgroup based in Newcastle and to a couple of people who organize a yearly comics event in Prestonpans.

Will also post on some zine/comics related websites.

This is the list of the confirmed from the London Zine Fair.
If anyone has been in contact already - let me know.
I will wait til the weekend has passed and contact the remainder.
Active Distribution - http://www.activedistribution.org
One of Europe’s largest zine, book, comic, everything distro for all things anarcho.

Black and White Cat Press - http://www.blackandwhitecatpress.org
Black and White Cat Press has been publishing zines, comics, CDs and making prints since 2002. It is based around the Manchester/ Salford area.

Brass buttons zine distro - http://www.buttonsmadefrombrass.blogspot.com
Carries a variety of music zines, and radical culture stuff.

Brighton University illustration BA
Around 10 people from the Brighton illustration BA course. The zines vary from purely illustration based to themed comic/ narrative based. There will also be a range of crafts and posters. Some photos of a previous stall they’ve run is at http://bleachingstream. blogspot.com/2008/ 01/our-stall-at-art-junky-fair. html

Corndog Publishing - http://www.corndog.co.uk
Corndog zine distro is relatively new but already stocks over 200 zines, books and comics from the UK, USA and Australia.

Dans Le Matin - web site coming soon!
Dans Le Matin is a new zine collective based around the work of Matt Walkerdine (http://www.damnsealegs.co.uk), Seb Wheeler (http://www.myspace.com/powerpoprocks) and Owen Richards (http://www.owenrichards.co.uk). We are embarking on a project which focuses on publishing hand assembled, limited edition zines that celebrate the fine details of life.

Dead Trees and Dye - http://www.deadtreesanddye.com
A relatively long running zine distro now based in South London. Has a number of art and comic zines as well as the more standard music/ radical zines.

eCartilage - http://www.ecartilage.co.uk
eCartilage zine is a mix of writing and artwork. Also on the table will be Attack!!!, which is a themed collection of people’s work with music. Also on the table will be zines/ comics by Gethan Dick (http://www.gethan.org) and Eleanor Jane Parsons (http://www.eleanorjane.co.uk)

Fanzine Ynfytyn - http://www.emmajanefalconer.co.uk
Fanzine Ynfytyn has stories, recipes and photography. Emma will also be bringing a selection of her cut and paste zines, and colour pocket poloroid zine. She’ll be sharing her stall with Scott Jason Smith who draws comics of everyday life.

Fever zine - http://www.myspace.com/feverzine
Fever zine is a lo-fi publication printed quarterly in a5 black & white, covering a mixture of music, art, fashion, zine culture, and blogs. Also on the stall will be comic/ zine People I know (http://www.myspace.com/dumpme) and Sketch Stance Colouring zine (http://www.myspace.com/sketchstance)

The Forest - http://theforest.org.uk
The Forest is a free arts and events space in central Edinburgh. We have aided production and distribution for a wide variety of publications. Our own fortnightly zine, CIA Nights, has recently published its hundredth issue. To celebrate, we turned colour.

Hey Monkey Riot zine - http://heymonkey.lasthours.org.uk
Hey Monkey Riot is a daily comic written by Edd, the editor of Last Hours, which as been collected into a series of collections. There are also two stand alone issues still in print (issue 2 and issue 3). A new issue will be released for the Zine Symposium! Edd is taking part in this year’s Zine Symposium exhibition.

Last Hours zine - http://www.lasthours.org.uk
A punk rock and radical culture bi-annual zine. Its very, very good!

Loserdom zine - http://www.loserdomzine.com
A personal zine based in Dublin, Ireland with comics, stories and reviews. Now on its 17th issue. It will also have copies of Rag, and Irish anarcha-feminist zine.

Marching Stars distro - http://www.marchingstars.co.uk
A small distro mostly selling perzines covering a range of issues such as feminism, queer, mental health, veg*nism, travel, body image and racial identity.

Morgenmuffel zine & Cowley Bookshop - http://www.morgemuffel.co.uk
A comic zine made by Isy, with the distro that she helps run at the Brighton Cowley Club, which carries a range of radical and alternative culture zines.

Voices of Resistance from Occupied London journal - http://www.occupiedlondon.org
A relatively new journal about London everyday life and how to make it better.

Paper Tiger comics - http://www.papertigercomix.com
Brighton based comic anthology. Also on the table will be Lucid Frenzy zine and The Bedsit Journal (http://www.bedsitjournal.com)

Pogo Cafe - http://www.pogocafe.co.uk
A hip East London vegan cafe that’ll be serving refreshments to everyone on the day.

Ricochet! Ricochet! and Lets Just Pretend zines - http://www.myspace.com/ricochetricochet
Colette and Patrick will be running their Ricochet! Ricochet! distro and selling their own zine, and some records from Colette’s record distro. There’ll also be Kate selling copies of Lets Just Pretend, Matthew Hell and other stuff of hers.

Savage Messiah zine - http://www.savagemessiahzine.com/
Is an ongoing psychogeographic drift with a collection of drawings, stories, and ideas about East London. Laura Oldfield Ford who writes Savage Messiah is part of this year’s Zine Symposium exhibition.

Sticks and Stones distro - http://www.myspace.com/sticksandstoneszinedistr
Stocks a variety of US and Euro zines. Will be sharing the table with Steve Larder (http://www.stevelarder.co.uk) who writes Rum Lad, a illustration/ comic-zine. Steve Larder is also taking part in this year’s Zine Symposium exhibition.

What they could do, they did - http://www.theydid.org.uk
What they could do, they did is a non-profit group working in South London that promotes the work of emerging artists through grassroots publishing. We have collectively written, edited, published and distributed zines, travelogues, printed art pieces and handmade art books.

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Workshops
Chris should sort one about how to make your own Pirate narrowcast radio. (I would happily help as I wish to sort one from my old allottment.)

London workshops that should be repeated.
Zine readings
Scavenger hunt
Comic Book Confidential (small film room: 12.30pm-2pm)
A look at the comic book world in the late 80s and early 90s with a number of interesting discussions about comic zines.
DIE or DIY (small film room: 4pm-5.30pm)
An inspiring film about how to survive on a DIY existence!
Other films
Day The Country Died - A History Of Anarcho-Punk
(I think torsten has a copy)
Hugh Fearnley Whittingdon A Cook On The Wild Side - there's an episode where he tags along with a load of London crusties skipping behind Sainsbury's and cooks up a large batch of bread pudding.
(I have a copy)

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Do we still have the contact for the Irish folk who came two festivals ago?
They put together really sweet headphone audio tourguides for two people, had them off in separate ways and converge with different narratives.
Very charming and romantic it was.
If we don't have it - we should work on our own.

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Are you going to email all individually Dai? I haven't been in touch with any of them. Joey knows the London organisers and may have contacts for peoples who couldn't be included because of space...if there were any?

Magda mentioned CrimeThinc today. Harry used to be part of the collective and might be able to be convinced to get some stuff sent over and work a stall. I'll get in touch with him.

Can we add something to the poster that let's people know there will be a gig Saturday night? Need to get it up on the website asap. Web details should also be on the poster.

Also, should we try and sort out some crash space?

ah, missed that post about about getting the web details on the poster. have already stuck some out and about.

getting a band and doing the workshops sounds ideal- bookbindin sounds like a good plan.

Films: i have a copy of comic book confidential, mentioned by dai above and also American Splendour which is a god movie. There is also The Psychedelic Mindscape of Alan Moore which i haven't seen but might be good.


Right so might be a good idea to meet up to discuss ideas fo r events- friday evening has been suggested, which is good for me, any time preferences?

6pm? Don't want to cut into Friday night too much...

I think it's fine that some posters are out without web details, but we should make a new batch as we firm up the schedule. See webstie for program details or whatever.

6pm sounds good.

Facebook group is up so join and invite!

Also spoke to Steve at Recycle Scotland- the tables are 4 foot by 2 foot and the legs screw off to allow for transport. They are kept in an industrial estate in livingston so we nee dto get a van sorted for nearer the time and arrange to pick them up, but will be free of charge.

Magda and Jane? Anyone else? No point in having a two person meeting.