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composting with the Cyrenians

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Postby Martin » Thu Oct 18, 2007 1:15 pm

I like the idea of pickups to a central composting location, but the cost seems quite high, it comes out to 870 quid a year plus VAT.

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Postby Martin » Thu Oct 18, 2007 1:17 pm

That said they suggest we would save by reducing our overall trade waste output, which may be true... what do we currently pay for waste disposal?

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Postby chris » Fri Oct 19, 2007 5:00 pm

i thought the point of compost was that it will break down in our garden?

storing inside is a bad idea - fly infestation.

£870 seems nuts.

can someone expalin the benifit,

a) surely if we didnt compost the waste would be picked up by the council and taken to landfil where it will biodegrade - no problem there then (?)

b) if we compost then it biodegrades on our land - no probs there (apart from possible flies and vermin)

c) if we pay the compost pirates, then they take it away and it biodegrades somewhere else and we lose £870 with no benifiet ???

what am i missing????

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Postby Shannon » Sat Oct 20, 2007 10:32 am

We only compost a fraction of our food waste because it is in our garden and I am being very careful not to attract pests. In covered storage facilities (which is what I suspect the Cyrenians will have), you can compost anything organic because you have no worry about pests.

Things don't just biodegrade in a landfill Chris. First, there's the problem of the plastic bags we keep this stuff in. There have been studies done where scientists come along and find certain food or nappies or whatever perfectly recognisable fifty years after they've been binned. Also, if you don't divert waste, new landfills will need to be created, and no one seems to want the next one in their backyard.

But most importantly, food waste breaking down at a landfill site creates methane. This is because it breaks down anaerobically, as oxygen cannot circulate properly like it does in 'nature'. A properly maintained compost heap does the job aerobically, producing less harmful CO2. (Incidentally, cattle produce huge amounts of methane via their shit and farts - one of the many reasons meat intensive western diets are bad for global warming).

I agree that the cost is too much for us. That's why I'm trying to think of ways to offset the cost and store the bins properly. I reckon there are enough people like me, who would like to compost that can't, to make this viable if we get the storage problem figured out.

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Postby bill » Mon Oct 22, 2007 12:50 pm

we could be really honest with them and say we think its cool but toomuch. how about we we buy the bin and give them a smaller pick upfee. also i could load a wheelie bin of compost a week into my van and use it as compost for a mere tenner a week. forest supplies the sealed bins. good sealed bins prevent vermin and if well sealed also flies.


not only do we not have enough space to compost all of our biodegradable materials but we don't have enough garden/gardeners to use it.

we should support cyreanins (SP)

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Postby Dandolo » Mon Oct 22, 2007 1:09 pm

are we organized enough for a copier?

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Postby bill » Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:51 pm

did you mean photocomposter?

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Postby chris » Mon Oct 22, 2007 3:37 pm

nice answers to my questions peoples! i learn something a bit more!

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Postby Shannon » Mon Oct 29, 2007 1:17 pm

Where are you going to compost it Bill? Will you take all our cooked food, cheese and dairy?

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Postby bill » Mon Oct 29, 2007 1:30 pm

i am going to create a size massive compost heap out at woodcote mains farmhouse, where i spend a good deal of my time.

i will take all food waste if that is what cryeanians will do.


i aim to properly compost stuff so that it will be used as a compost, not just broken down aerobically. proper rotation etc.

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Postby Shannon » Mon Oct 29, 2007 1:47 pm

Cool, in that case I'm into it.

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Postby bill » Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:51 pm

then we have an accord?

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money, the root of all evil again.

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Re: money, the root of all evil again.

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Postby Gandhi » Tue Oct 30, 2007 1:23 pm

It's like God's vagina!

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Postby baloo » Sat Nov 10, 2007 6:38 pm

up and at it.

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Postby baloo » Mon Nov 19, 2007 7:23 pm

three is ideal-one in use filling up with veg scraps etc., one full up and digesting, and one full of compost ready to go.
And with worms theres no needs ta turn!
Go tiger worms!
up and at it.

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cyrenians composting

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Postby baloo » Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:13 pm

i said we needed a compost bin extra and now we are not composting at all...?
Ok...i bring in a bin numba 3.
Will forest refund me?
And i will perhaps pull on our compost reserve and make some space...

cool.
soon......
up and at it.

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Postby bill » Fri Mar 21, 2008 1:07 pm

yes go compost in forest!

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Postby Jane » Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:43 pm

Gahhh, I am going to sit with the flies and the rats and shake my head and wonder all these years and we have learned nothing...NOTHING! Well, at least it will be a fun chance to see some bloodoo magic.

Good luck compost kids, just remember not to forget all about it and go away on holiday and think that some other volunteers will take care of it, because they never do, and it all ends in tears. And tsetses.

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Postby Shannon » Wed Mar 26, 2008 9:20 am

Thanks for the warning Jane, but it has been going for about a year and a half now with no mishaps. And I've even left on vacation.

Blue: we have started composting again. Space was made in one of the bins. But yes, a third one would probably be good.

I have someone who will take (reasonable) amounts of finished compost away. A third bin, and a good labelling system, will probably help with this. We were having problems with stuff getting dumped in the bin that was supposed to be full and processing.

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Postby baloo » Wed Apr 16, 2008 5:10 pm

up and at it.

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Postby baloo » Wed Apr 16, 2008 5:11 pm

up and at it.


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