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Postby lucky » Sat Dec 08, 2007 7:36 pm

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Postby beev » Sun Dec 09, 2007 6:58 pm

I agree that its more important to have an inviting atmosphere than to try to get everyone online at once.

Standing only is good. Standing in the main room even better if there is a space.

This is a problem that's been going on for toooooooo long.

And while I recognise that there will always be people who don't have easy access to the net (travelers and the like), I think there is a diminishing demand for our services as more and more people are getting connected at home. This is a real phenomenon that relates to forest people as much as anyone else. So it is very possible we are overdoing it and wfs are taking up the slack.

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Postby Martin » Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:36 am

Standing can be done really quick, I sorted out the flatscreens so we just need to put in a shelf or two.

What's this about the sound desk changing? That corner's often a bit empty and could be a good spot to fit them in.

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Postby ravanwin » Mon Dec 10, 2007 12:57 pm

please don't put computers in the main event space. i object all the way.

as far as 1 v 2 vomputers go: 2 is a treat and 1 is fine, I think. I don't care enough to fight it and I think the resource will be used more effeciently if there is only one. Still, I take shannon's point and agree it could seem elitest / giving up to the laptop crowd.

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Postby chombee » Mon Dec 10, 2007 5:23 pm

I'd be happy with either one or two computers at standing or sitting height somewhere in the main cafe, if they can fit. Probably two standing is best. I think it's reasonable when there's an event on to turn the computers and the wireless off.
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Postby ravanwin » Tue Dec 11, 2007 1:04 pm

do not put the computers in the main space.

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Postby chris » Tue Dec 11, 2007 1:29 pm

get rid of the computers altogether..

anyway i'll be moving them to oiutside.

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Postby swithun » Tue Dec 11, 2007 2:19 pm

I knew you'd come round, Ryan. Putting the computers at standing height in the main room is the best solution. It lets us do something cool in the room formerly coloured gold and lets the non-laptop users access the information super highway without having this precious resource abused by weirdofucks. Even Chris agrees with us now.

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Postby ravanwin » Tue Dec 11, 2007 2:38 pm

do not put them in the main space.

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Postby bryony » Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:11 pm

No computers in the main room! One by the window in the Red room.

This is how it should be (in my humble opinion)

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Postby lucky » Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:59 pm

I agree, not in the main room. The last thing we need is to have people hanging around and climbing over other people when they're trying to eat their food. And anyone focusing on computers during events is ridiculously annoying.

This argument is going on too long. It is a very fair point that people DO NOT NEED to use the internet as much in The Forest as they have it at home. As I say, waiting time is minimal as it is.

One standing height as far to the side as possible in the Red Room. PLEASE!

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Postby chris » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:14 pm

put them in the toilets!

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Postby Gandhi » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:14 pm

agree with Alex and Ryan. I think that computers in the main room would just be a pain in the a**. Its not the biggest place and every bit of space needs to be used as well as possible. Having people clambering around trying to get to a computer would not only be annoying to people trying to read a book/eat dinner/chillax but would also be distracting for any performances happening.

Having the computers or computer in the red/gold room is fine I think, the only reason it kind of sucked before was that they seemed to be the main thing in the room. having them so that people stand and be less central (e.g.near the window) would not only make the front room seem bigger but also put a bit more energy back into it. They should just be a part of the room and not the main focus. there's too much cool shit to do in that room/the whole forest instead of it being for people to stare blankly at a screen. I also think the screens should be high enough so people don't start sitting down to use them again.
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Postby beev » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:20 pm

it doesn't even need to be against the wall. just put the one in the window on a table so you have to stand up to use it.

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Postby beev » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:23 pm

we could mount the two flatscreens on the wall for displaying art and info...

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Postby chombee » Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:07 pm

Mounting flatscreens on the wall or something like that, and using them to display stuff, is a cool idea. The trouble is if you want two screens displaying info then you need two computers connected to them (or one computer with two video outputs, which the gold room computers don't have). I'd suggest mounting the flatscreens at standing height somehow against a wall in the gold room (which is the plan we had a long time ago) and then having them display useful info when they're not in use (i.e. as a screensaver). But then, there is always someone on them.

Lets just give one computer in the gold room a try. Either with or without the monitor, either at standing height or not, one way or another. See what happens.

We could store the other computer somewhere until we think of something to do with it. At some point we could set it up somewhere out of view in the gold room, with no keyboard or mouse attached, and just hooked up to a flatscreen mounted to the wall, just non-interactively displaying info. It might be cool, but then I'm not sure if we need a computer to display information, we have lots of posters as it is. Adding a new page to the screen info could be made really easy though, if it was done over the network. Just add a file into a folder, and remove files from the folder. Quicker and easier than printing and sticking up posters and taking them down. Maybe a waste of energy. Thoughts?

Oh, or could we convert one of them into a Listening Post? A flatscreen mounted on a wall, with the actual computer out of the way somewhere. If you want them to be able to interact with it you need to at least provide a mouse and a flat surface for the mouse. But maybe it could be non-interactive? It just plays our music on shuffle, and people listen through headphones. and we add and remove music over the network? That's not much different to the jukebox we already have I s'pose, the only difference is they would see the name of the artist it's playing.
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Postby chombee » Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:08 pm

Or instead of a mouse we hook up some kind of joystick or other device that we attach to the wall, and they use to choose what music to play.
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Postby chombee » Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:12 am

I've had it with you. If I had an image of a laser gun I would absolutely position it right here in my hand...
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Postby lucky » Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:00 pm

Bohnenflaschen!

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Postby lucky » Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:57 pm

I'm thinking of putting this up.

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Postby Martin » Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:01 pm

I think that's very reasonable. Take away the image behind the text though, it makes it hard to read.

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Postby beev » Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:41 pm

I'm not that into it. I don't think we should be defining what people are supposed to use the net for. (That doesn't mean I'm against censoring certain sites if it makes our lives easier!)

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Postby ravanwin » Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:45 pm

i don't mind but it's tone could make people retaliate out of spite....

maybe wait and see who grumbles,
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Postby martinmckenna » Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:58 pm

Am all for the sign ,

It could be , that people dont know what is expected of them in using the computers and why they are there , not viewing nasty web sites goes without saying .

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Postby lucky » Fri Dec 14, 2007 2:01 pm

Bohnenflaschen!

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