ARGH the e-mail

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ARGH the e-mail

Postby alice » Wed Sep 12, 2007 6:07 pm

we need to not have a yahoo account.

I just tried to send a mail out about the next exhibition but yahoo won't let me insert any addresses. I'm going to Knock this evening so am totally hopeless.
Yahoo sucks.
If anyone feels like taking on the battle here is the text and i've sent it to everyone from a-d on our address list: (I had some of the words different sizes but it doesn't seem to be working on the bb)

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Total Kunst Presents

Cardboard Cathedral
A collaboration between Lindsay Grime and Rachel Maclean

18th-28th September
Closing party 28th September

Two artists from different disciplines collaborate to create a cardboard
temple, at once gaudy and fleeting.

The project embraces ideas about gender, life, death and America's Next
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Model, which have come about through this collaboration, presenting an amalgam
of different aesthetics, which combine to create an ambiguous, shifting identity.

The viewer is initially presented with a wealth of imagery, alluding in graphic style
to a shop window or a fashion illustration, and in decadence and detail to the
excess of a Baroque Cathedral.

However the content of the work constantly displaces this indulgent aesthetic,
with its rendering in cardboard and obvious flat pack
installment into the space suggesting something fleeting, cheap and easily
disposable.

Both artists attend Edinburgh College of art, Lindsay Grime studying Illustration,
and Rachel Maclean studying Drawing and Painting.


Total Kunst is the visual arts division of the Forest Cafe, 3 Bristo Place, Edinburgh.
We are a not for profit arts and events collective run by volunteers. For more
information see http://www.theforest.org.uk
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Postby alice » Wed Sep 12, 2007 6:15 pm

ok I finnished the 'e's, Thats as far as I can get
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Postby martinmckenna » Wed Sep 12, 2007 6:43 pm

can we not get a forest domain name like totalkunst@theforest.org or alternatively register our own name

not sure how i can help , if i dont have the addresses
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Postby Gaz » Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:22 pm

yeah it's possible to have any address.
that one might exist already.
duncan is the man who can.

however the email account is pretty poor. squirrelmail or whatever.
not user friendly and quite small, so most people use it as a forwarder to yahoo or suchlike.

best to stick with the yahoo for a bit and work out why it's not working properly...
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Postby stephengoodall » Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:25 pm

i may be being stupid but what's wrong with gmail, aside from being google, or is that the point?
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Postby martinmckenna » Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:47 pm

i think it would be a good idea to find out why its not working , before any knee jerk actions , and i think squirrel mail aint too friendly too. but you can download mail to a email client ,but this may be more trouble than its worth .

For things like email list and the such dont really have to be from the yahoo account , at least if we can get the addresss from it , or if not then start again , if yahoo is anything like hotmail then you have to pay extra for the export of you address book . but if we can send an email with all the emails in it then we could savage something am sure . i think this maybe be the best thing to try first

This is the problem with using these kinds of email providers , they are certain functions you have to pay for , hotmail and yahoo . Am not sure about gmail
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Postby martinmckenna » Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:38 am

hello

ive messed about horde , it dont seem too friendly too . I tryed importing an address book , but no joy .

alice if you just send me the address book ill see what i can do , this will be a workaround untill we can come up with a better plan of action

It still worth setting up the forest email in the mean time . at least have it ready
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Postby chris » Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:09 pm

try using yahoo beta, (if you aint already), my normal email is yahoo, and i find it work ok/good.

although i am rubbish at all email really...
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Postby martinmckenna » Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:59 pm

I think we could have a mailman mailing list , which is what i think alice was talking about , so people can join it . this would just be for anouncements , this would ideal if it was hosted on the forest web site , if not i could host it
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Postby martinmckenna » Thu Sep 20, 2007 12:40 pm

hi

Ive set up mailman mailing list , and its only for events and its pretty well locked down , so hopefully no spam . We can ether use the one on my server or try and get it on the forest web site , which i think would be better . in the meantime we should play about with it ,

http://roytrumps.com/mailman/listinfo/totalkunst-announce_roytrumps.com


in the future we should get it linked to the total kunst web page , and also get the subscription page jazzed up a bit , it pretty generic [/url]
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Postby ravanwin » Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:09 pm

nice one martin! looks sexxxy.

if you PM duncan he can get you access / sort out whatever is needed in terms of web master blah blah blah...

cool?
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Postby martinmckenna » Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:43 pm

the webmaster has been contacted ,
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Postby martinmckenna » Sat Sep 29, 2007 8:54 am

hello

Duncan has replied and says he will set up a mailing list for us , but hes a bit busy fixing the web site ,so it will be about a week . wahoo !
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Postby stephengoodall » Sat Sep 29, 2007 11:47 am

cool!

for the record, i am going to go through the unsuccessful deliveries in the yahoo account and remove them from the address list.

martin, do you want me to send you the updated list?
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Postby martinmckenna » Sat Sep 29, 2007 1:14 pm

yeah that would be cool, i wont be putting them in for a while but it would be good to have them , once we have it , it would be nice to test it so we know what we are doing before going live
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Postby stephengoodall » Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:00 pm

yahoo still isn't cooperating w/regards press releases. is there any new news on getting the mailing list running?
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Postby martinmckenna » Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:30 pm

still waiting for passwords so i can set it up .
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Postby martinmckenna » Tue Oct 16, 2007 7:23 pm

on a more positive note , we do have a way to upload photos to the gallery at
http://theforest.org.uk/gallery/TotalKunst/admin.php


i have the password for this , so if anyone has photos of the past shows then we can get them uploaded ,

pm me for the password , make a folder and upload , link it to the archive and bingo its a sail !
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Postby martinmckenna » Wed Nov 07, 2007 12:15 pm

so we have a mailing list now , its here

http://www.theforest.org.uk/index.php?o ... Itemid=284

bill , alice you are already on it , and yo can post to it , i wont put the details of how to here ,

so on to the next project.................. oh yeah and our listing made it into the skinny !
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Postby ravanwin » Thu Nov 08, 2007 10:15 am

nice work on getting the skinny folks. awesome job.
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Postby stephengoodall » Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:18 pm

that's the mail out for till tkxmaxxx sent
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Postby martinmckenna » Tue Nov 27, 2007 1:00 am

cool

ive received it my hotmail account , its a bit of a mess with the formating . but is readable , we need learn more about how to send formated emails . otherwise it may be better just to send text , does anybody now abut how to do this better ? i guess people use ms frontpage for this kind of things , ill looke into if we can use open ofice
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Postby James » Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:10 am

dont use ms front page. it really is shite. it produces over heavy HTML.
I suspect openoffice would be the same.

The problem is HTMl is not designed for that kind of WYSIWGT editing.

I think I can teach you some basic formatting by hand which should be enought to get us by ,,,, including images and headings.
lets talk sometime.
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Postby ravanwin » Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:59 pm

if anyone figures out how to add html graphics to emails, the GHB people would really apprciate that.
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Postby martinmckenna » Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:06 pm

cool james show us what you know !

i played about with it a bit , using thunderbird helps . open office was not so good . the problem with thunderbird is we cant use it with yahoo unless we pay .but i guess we could use a ofrest account to post mail outs .
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Postby stephengoodall » Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:59 am

the original post could come from any address that has the privilege right?
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Postby martinmckenna » Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:36 pm

yes that is true ,
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Postby martinmckenna » Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:34 pm

I think thunderbird is the way forward , it does mean a bit of double handling from the web site to the mailing list . we can get yahoo with thunderbird without paying , thunderbird has a plug in . webman that will let you do it . i have it working now . my experience with webmail on hotmail is not very good . it works for a while then it stops .hopefully this will not be that case with yahoo

if anyone is thinking of setting this up , then make sure you tick the box that leaves all the messages on the server in the account setting before you download messages
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