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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 12:41 pm 
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hey we have a lot of show coming up , and noboby know whats going on ! lets tell them heres what we have ..

13th -20th Dec Plastic Bag Project

20th-21st Dec Emi / Party

22nd Dec-3rd Jan mINIvIDfEST 2

4th-18th Jan Dead Forest

19th Jan-1st Feb London Show (martinmckenna)

2nd Feb- 15th Feb sarah tingle (simone)

16th Feb- 1st Mar David Mueller

we need text for , closing party info , images .

a program poster would be great ! we can do this . there are more of us than ever .


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 Post subject: Re: promotion promotion
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Yes i agree it is a great idea to promote the program of events. This has proved difficult in the past for a couple of reasons-

- collating the images and text from the artists usually proves difficult.
-We do 2 week shows, which is unusual, so if we do 1 poster per show, it's too much work and is doomed to failure. Also, making a poster for 2 months worth of shows means the same poster is kicking around places for ages and becomes invisible.

I think that if we are promoting the shows themselves the posters should definitely contain images of the work and a short text describing it. Otherwise the artists we show will just be names that probably won't mean much to anyone.

It'd be good to have consistent postering in a few good spots that we update regularly, with the posters being eyecatching but with a unified visual style that identifies them.


Personally, i think that promoting the space itself is equally important though, we should design posters that describe the nature of the space and the application process, advertise for submissions, ideas for projects and potential new members.

So, I think we should decide:

-how often posters will be made
-new process for collating information
-List of places to hit
-list of details for electronic distribution


We also need:
-Template poster design so anybody can set up the new poster
-text for posters

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 Post subject: Re: promotion promotion
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yes it has be difficult in the past , but with no difficulty ive been able to post the info contained in the first post . this is a start . so in part we have moved on a bit . get better info from the artist i think is a must . we are giving them an opportunity and in return we are asking for that . its not much !

getting this info is crux of everything , without it we cant do any promotion of the gallery . so ask the artist your are dealing with to give us a short bit of text and an image . and explain to them why its important to us .without it nobody knows !

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 Post subject: Re: promotion promotion
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Wheee! I'm on the bb!

I would happily have a go at a poster template - I can use a computer in the action room, or borrow a laptop from someone.
This is a good idea: if someone has time they can elaborate on the existing template, or if no one can be bothered, then at least there's something. I also like the idea of pinning them up in the same places each fortnight, as a good reference point for people, and also to get into some kind of promotional routine.

So if anyone wants to throw some words/images/specs my way, I can put something together if it's not being done already.


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 Post subject: Re: promotion promotion
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excellent!

The TK logo is in one of the threads above, it would be great if this could be included.

I am still chasing my artist for info at the moment, but will endeavour to chase with more frequency.

I think the posters should be monthly myself, what do others think?

Also, this could help to reduce the website frustration and workload, as if the poster image can be made regularly, it can be put wholesale onto the website in place of going through the usual process.

if we are wanting to promote shows in advance, we should be aiming to produce the next months poster (if it be monthly) after the beginning of the last show of the month and before the end of it.

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 Post subject: Re: promotion promotion
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i have no concerns about when it comes out . as long as it does . and yes posting it on the web site may be better . although it wont be as good for archiving . but at least informative . hopfully posting stuff on the web will get easier once the new web site is up and running . it should be a bit like facebook events .

a simple idea is to get one good image from the artist (not to much to ask) stick there name on it and a logo . boom! a poster is born . really the artist should be doing this themselves .

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 Post subject: Re: promotion promotion
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it seemed to work well when this info went into the forest weekly flier too...is this still happening? shall have a nose at flier next time i'm in.
i have quite lax on getting info from artists recently, sorry shall get back on the case

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 Post subject: Re: promotion promotion
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Yeah, good plan, would be good to be back in the programme.



If we are able to do a poster for each show that'd be better for the website i suppose but i think that amount of effort would be difficult to sustain...


also facebook- should a seperate profile be created? Maybe we could create a group rather than a profile? it'd be good to go back to promoting the closing parties. We also need to start promoting the working group meeting on here, facebook and forestspeaks.



So where do the posters go?

I think several should go in the eca, perhaps someone will be able to enlighten us as to where... We should definitely be pushing call for submissions there anyway.

also fruitmarket, collective, ingleby, stills, ootb, leith school, talbot rice...

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 Post subject: Re: promotion promotion
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i can do the posters in eca - you have to get them stamped by the student onion otherwise they get taken down...

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 Post subject: Re: promotion promotion
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so has anybody got any images or text for the coming shows? I had a real hankering to update the website today...

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 Post subject: Re: promotion promotion
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am awaiting londons reply .i will hassel them more .

this is and has always been a problem . I guess being nice about it doesn't work . So maybe reminding the artist that its a privilege that they are having a show and it only by the work of volunteers that they are having a show and giving us what we request is part of deal . and by not doing it nobody knows about their show and in general the gallery . THIS IS NOT GOOD FOR US !

since we have so many shows it a lot of work for us to write stuff for them . unless someone wanted to do it . this could be done via the proposals if need be .

there may be another solution entirely.

one solution for the posters is to take a photo of the work once it is hung and then make a poster via it .

ultimately i think the artist should be doing this themselves and some have .

the danger is becoming an advertisement agency for artist . spending our time running about getting this stuff rather than creating some bigger .

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 Post subject: Re: promotion promotion
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heres a simple poster , all you need is a good quality image , and the info . the image could be got from the show itself . i could also send a poster like this via the email list .

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 Post subject: Re: promotion promotion
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thanks , are you going to make your own for minvidfes ? and dead forest . if you give me an image ill make you one , toget things going .

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 Post subject: Re: promotion promotion
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I'd like to do both of them as it goes... have got a couple of ideas

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 Post subject: Re: promotion promotion
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ill look forward to seeing them !

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 Post subject: Re: promotion promotion
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Here's the first... let me know what yo think, not averse to changing it if the need is felt but reasonably pleased with it...


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cool, we need to get them up some where .

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 Post subject: Re: promotion promotion
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here's the high res version of the file - can we print some at the forest? It is set up for A$ but if it starts cropping at the bottom we might have to print it at, say, 95% and centre it to give a bigger border....


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 Post subject: Re: promotion promotion
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the printer has a 12pt margin on it .


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That should be fine at 100% then as that's only about 4.5mm... BTW dd you recognise the 'eye'?

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 Post subject: Re: promotion promotion
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HI guys,
what about making people to designate already in the APPLICATION for a show what one image they would like to use for promo/ poster, IF selected? People might be more responsive when applying... and that there needs to be this minimal info in order for us to be able to process the application... Its not much to ask. would streamline it for us...

Great looking poster template, that is. 60' lit... ah! Also, the telly one. Thats the one that is going to be cut, no? bunuel...


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 Post subject: Re: promotion promotion
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thanks Mirja - well spotted - it's that famous eye from Un Chien Andalou... I have never actually managed to watch that scene...

And that's a very good idea regarding the application...

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 Post subject: Re: promotion promotion
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Debaser da da daaooo da da daaooo boooow bow wow booow bow wow. gonna be singing that all day now!

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 Post subject: Re: promotion promotion
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do rgb images print as colour ? even iof they are black and white . both posters here are rgb colour space .

i notice that the submission flyer was printing in colour , even tho its black and white so i changed it to grayscale . this saves us money . so it something to be aware of .

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 Post subject: Re: promotion promotion
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the submission poster is done , and i put on the sticky ! .

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posters all good, thanks chaps.

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i think the way forward for good looking posters is glossy paper . like this

http://purelypaper.co.uk/product.php?pr ... 164&page=1

this should give the finnish of professionally done posters but in a small scale .

i just need to find suppler that sell a pack individually , i can get a4 at staples . so i may buy a pack for testing purposes. but we need a3 paper but not card .

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another idea on the promo front about the lack of images . is just to use some other image . fish springs to mind , each poster with a different fish on it . this at least gets the habit going . dia used a similar strategie with the events listing .

the mailing list really needs some kind of text otherwise its just a bunch of names . not that interesting .

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for the website i just used images and text from the original applications to mock up posters.

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should I post what i used here for ease of cut and paste? The problem with jpegs on the website is the text isnt as easily accessed or changed.

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wow ! did you do the posters ? they look good . sweet . where did yo get the images ?

all we need is a a3 sized ones , also i would put Edinburgh on them as we will want get some to billy in glasgow .

it does make archiving the text difficult , when its on a jpeg . but it does cut down work . i dont know really . although i need the text for the mailing list , but i could just send the jpeg . which ill do .

also its hard to read the text on the images . you need to resize the image to the size you want it to be before uploading it . otherwise when it gets resized by the website its not so good . for instance if the image is being resized to 500x500 px on the page , then resize it in photoshop/gimp to that,

am sure we can get a good system going . idealy it would be nice to create an event like facebook , then have the poster available for download for everyone. hopefully when we get the new website this will become a lot easier.

we need to get have an action day , unfortunately am weekends until may . so maybe have one at night and sort some stuff relating this .

all good

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there is the out of out of gallery away day on the 24th of jan- will you be able to get the day off work or come for chat in the evening?

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ill see what i can do ,

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 Post subject: Re: promotion promotion
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we've definitely got the production of eyecatching posters underway but we still lack a means of distribution...

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thats true ! but on the bright side stage 1 has realized , now for the hard part . people go some places anyway so maybe if they can take a poster and pin it up would be good .

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haveing posters in the collective gallerywould be good , they have a nice foyer where people may seat .

idealy it would be good to hang them in groups of two , i can see hanging a poster every 2 weeks a bit much .

there also the no small matter of getting the poster to ourselves . so maybe someone can print them out . leave them in tk pidgin hole and collection can happen from there ,


practice makes terrific things happen ! in time we should get better at this and then the fun can really happen .

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also, keeping the posters up to date is important, so that posters from months ago aren't lingering for too long.

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ideally it would be good to have the posters ready for the meeting . so i need a image for sarahs show and David Mueller . please remember the poster is a3 so the image has to be of a reasonable size . its also important though not always possible to have the closing party on them .



and yes it not good to have old posters up . i would think eca and the collective take them down when they are dead .

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i used the images sarah sent in her application- its in the yahoo account. i can send you on david's image if you like.

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thanks for sending the stuff , but there is no attachment . so ive signed in to the account . i dont want to mess about in it . so maybe its an idea to have a folder with all the images in it . so can just dip in without fear of messing anything up . is this a good idea ?

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melanie is on the case for setoffset closing party on facebook. again maybe this kind of info needs to ready for the meeting for next month in order so she can get it .

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martinmckenna wrote:
thanks for sending the stuff , but there is no attachment . so ive signed in to the account . i dont want to mess about in it . so maybe its an idea to have a folder with all the images in it . so can just dip in without fear of messing anything up . is this a good idea ?

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The attachment should be several emails down on the email i sent you. I will resend. Sarah's application can be found by using the yahoo search function or scrolling through the "correspondence" folder. I'll attach both images.

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thanks for images and i just emailed sarah in this case .

still i think a folder would be nice.

also a note to all , when you receive the images and text please forward it to tk mail box , at least then it can be archived for the future .

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gloss paper is good !

got some today

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ive put all the current posters in the tk post box . please collect and distribute , if its the last one please photocopy more .ive also printed out lots of gallery leaflets , so if you are in please put them out . they are in the cupboard, in the viking box .

i was thinking should we make a wee holder for them and put it on the wall . they usually get scattered and look shit .


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the thing with holders is other people think their leaflets look great in them too, and they may still end up getting scattered anyway....could be worth a try though

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