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 Post subject: zapatista coffee!
PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 3:41 pm 
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so we can buy organic fairtrade community coffee live and direct from communities in chiapas mexico! we can get it for approx £6.20 per kg....we buy it in 50kg whoppers. this is one whole pound cheaper than what we currently pay on our organic fairtrade coffee (£7.10 per kg)

this is great and if we can possibly support these communities in the poorest area in mexico we definately should. definately. the zapaistas are almost undeniably amazing.

i think when we order some we should alsobuy some 250kg packets of ground coffee to sell in the cafe. it really is some of the most delicious coffee that i have ever had......serious. i reckon the more folks who buy and are exposed to the coffee/the zapatistas the better.

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here is the place we could buy from: http://www.cafe-libertad.de/
here you can watch an amazing video about the zapatista uprising http://www.freespeech.org/videodb/index ... ion=search


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I have also been told that this is some of the best coffee around.

I am definitely into it.

The only difference is that we'll have to order a lot more at once, but I don't think it should be that big of a deal. We could keep it in the walk-in fridge?


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Bill speaks la veridad. This coffee is the canine's cojones and no mistake. The price list is here (pdf).


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is this including postage? any chance we could get it cheaper? how reliable are they in terms of delivery? how long with 50kg of cofffee go? how do we store it all? I'm sure gc will knock a couple quid off the price if we tell them we are changing suppliers.... Alex. Make it a mention!
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It's not just the price. It's also where the product is coming from. The Zapatista project is the fairer trade of fair trade!

According to Bill, it does include postage.

We get about 6-12kg of coffee/week.


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yeah it includes postage.

they just wrote to me saying

"The price is correct if you give us your european tax-ID. If you don´t have this we have to add you 7 % german VAT.

Cheers, pingo"

they must be cool if they have names like this.
anyone got any ideas what our european tax-ID is?

i think even if gc dropped the price to that of the zapatista coffee, we should still choose them.have emailed them abut delivery time. we can fit more stuff on the top back of the far shelf in the dry cupboard. in the walk in fridge, in the "freezer" in the understairs place, my house, etc.

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European tax id???


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the fridge means condensation, which you don't want on your beans


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they're in sealed packets. and there are other places no?


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these people called for bill. they want an answer....
he said, "don't push me"

what does that mean? was that a threat?

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huh??


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yeah they've already taken my dog and my sister hostage til we order 200kg of coffee from them.....

i don't know what to do.......is anyone a trained un-terrorist? i'll get our forest friend condoliza onto it?


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ok that tax this is sweet........the price thing still stands, they want to know how much we want (guys make it over 200kg or they kill my dog).....

no seriously we want to order 50kg? 25kg??

hurray!


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We've got the room for lots of unopened bags and certainly for 1 open bag. It could even go in the kitchen freezer if the walls weren't so thick.

I can't wait for the taste of freedom.


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nor i neither swithin, nor me either.......


we should order some 250g/500g bags of delicious ground for to sell as bags...i for one would buy this and reckong plenty other would too....yes!

anyone can perooose the prices here or shoudl i say aqui?
(see attachment- has this worked?)

i spoke to them and they say article 260is best, the strongest (durito) italian style espresso coffee whole bean...


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Nice one. Did the VAT thing work out?


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yep our vat number quenched their thirst for what ever they wanted!

we is ready to order....unlessanyone objects i'll order 25kg of strong italian style espresso coffee wholebeans and about 10 bags of strong ground espresso coffee....all of this is organic and fairtrade too!

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How much are the small bags? will the forest rip me off for it? If it's real good can we buy big bags of the beans? Will the forest rip me off for it?

These people are armed, but don't kill people right? cool, gimme coffee.


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yeah the zapatistas are sweet.....truely.....no we won't rip you off..look at the price sheet attachment on my post above......we could order bags of250g or strong italian espresso ground coffee to sell in bags to folk seeing as its fucking sweet coffee and for something really good. we can buy bags of this for 2.25 euros....forest mark up is usually a third so maybe we would sell them for about 3 euros or 3.50 euros (£2.25-£2.50?).....this is just a guess......we can't get the espresso type coffee in bigger bags. only the standard coffee in 500g bags.

more on zapatistas here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zapatista_ ... Liberation
http://www.tomhayden.com/articlesGA4.htm
http://www.struggle.ws/mexico/comment/a ... feb01.html

a zapatista film online here:
http://www.freespeech.org/videodb/index ... ion=search (this is wheely wheely good.)


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I think all this sounds very good, go for it!

I think we should get some bags to sell in the cafe. To my recollection when we sold small bags they sold like vegan hotcakes! (on that note, new cakes are AMAZING!!!)

Bill, I know a man that knows some woman that knows someone who could protect your dog for you.

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As Swithun suggested to me last night:If anyone sees any balaclavas in a charity shop or something please buy some so that we can have a balaclava day to promote our new zapatista coffee. Also automatic weapons. Toy ones. Which we will not use unless we really, really have to.

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brilliant idea....i celebratory day of new coffee....we shoudl speak to the edinburgh zapatista support group and see if they want to show a film or something?

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I can get in touch with them - though I'm not sure how keen they'll be on the piss take stuff! Any idea when the coffee will be in?


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Yes a film will be good.

Seriously, does anyone know where I could pick up a load of balaclavas and other zapatista outfit stuff? I am just dumb enough to not know where to conveniently get it for cheap. Poundsavers maybe, or Edinburgh Bargain Store. I will look.

We could also make a new revolutionary menu: Zapatista coffee, Sandinista sandwiches, Bolivarian beans on toast, Fascist Earl Grey (it's always been the tea of the fascists), Marxist Mozarella... Or at least a poster. And put it on the sign outside. I think the arrival of Zapatista coffee should be on the events board too, but that's just me.

Do we still have that ragdoll man around? If I could get some stuff he could be made into a zapatista.

There is much hilarity to be made from these Zapatistas and their Subcommandante Marcos, while also promoting the forest and the zapatistas.

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(It's NOT PHOTOSHOPPED! Honest! Our friend Jon-from-ACE used The GIMP)

Just change that starbucks logo to a forest logo... Subcommandante Marcos eats a MUG FULL of forest cafe zapatista coffee beans every morning, and he has CONTINUALLY OUTWITTED THE MEXICAN GOVERNMENT. BE that smart, drink coffee, etc.


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I can get in touch with them - though I'm not sure how keen they'll be on the piss take stuff! Any idea when the coffee will be in?


Yeah, you're right. Maybe we shouldn't invite them!

I'm sure that Garibaldi biscuits go well with Zapatista coffee.


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ok they say it takes within a week to get it to england.i will email them now with the order see how we pay etc... i think we celebrate. i will work.we will not buy cheap balaclavas from slave made/china shops. but we will wear balaclavas..........and i think we shoudl talk to edinburgh chiapas folks.....


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there is an army surplus type shop on leithe walk, just before tesco (bomb tesco on route) on the right as you walk down. they'll have balaclavas and baclavas


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Ok I'll try to get down to an army surplus store, maybe at the weekend. That'll be soon enough right? We don't have to do zapa day on the exact day the stuff arrives, especially cos we don't know exactly when that is. Should we pick a day?

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I work near the Leith Army Store and can get the balaclavas if you want, how many do you need? Alternatively there is another army store in Newington, opposite the old Odeon cinema.


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If it's convenient for you to get them that'd be cool Graeme, I'm a mess this week.

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We could use 4 perhaps. That is how many people usually work in the kitchen at one time.

How about fixing the day for a couple of weeks from now, assuming that we will have the coffee by then. It will give us time to get publicity together and use up as much of the old coffee as possible.


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Agree

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Yes, we should pick a day and make a proper event of it. We should ask for a budget from the events people. There should be Rage Against the Machine on the stereo, and balaclavas in the kitchen. We should put on a couple of Zapatista documentaries, and invite the Chiapis solidarity crew along for a stall (with full warning that there will be a good dose of hilarity).


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i have a genuine zapatista balaclava from the moutains of oaxaca and lots of subcommandante marcos keyrings. they have good souveniers.

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this is gonna be so sweet!

order is away, we pay when it arrives (suckers!)


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they have good souveniers.


All true revolutionaries do.

Infoseed has a giant Che Guevera poster. Perhaps we could borrow.

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why take the piss? why buy balaclavas from army surplus store (unless the idea meant as intentional irony i suppose)? if you want zapatista souveniers/dressy up clothes to sell you could speak to Edinburgh Chiapas Group, they can surely get you some good ones (the dolls are real nice, and the lighters are good and the ashtrays are excellente) or could point you to where the good ones lie...
but they might just send you to leith army store, and then i will hang my cyborg head in shame...

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i have no intention of taking the pissing. but i will enjoy wearing a balaclava for a day and smoking a pipe often.

hopefooley people will ask why am i wearing a balaclava.....i will sell them coffee.......then we have them. bam!


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How about Sat 24th? Is that too early?

Todo:

1 Get balaclavas
2 Make and print a poster/flyer
3 Get some plastic stands to put on tables to hold the poster/flyer. They will be useful in the future for holding info about forest. I've heard they can be attained from local coffee chains and potterrow and teviot.
4 Dress up the ragdoll man like a zapatista
5 Whatever else was suggested
6 Let the Zapa solidarity people know
7 Get a Zapatista movie to show
8 Put Zapa day in the events book or on the events board or whatever

I can do 2 and attempt 3. Graeme already said he would do 1.

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9. Sign up for shifts in Zapa day. I can do. I can NM if need be.

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How about Sat 24th


Ras's weekend that weekend. maybe not good(?)

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I bought(and have gifted to the Forest) 4 balaclavas, they are in the office in a Leith Army Stores carrier bag.
I accept the moral and ethical implications of the purchase and will not be offended if other balaclavas/hats/bandanas are sourced and used.


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they have good souveniers.


All true revolutionaries do.

Infoseed has a giant Che Guevera poster. Perhaps we could borrow.


i also have chairman mao coasters and placemats. my mum bought them for me.

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Okay if not Sat 24th then can we say Sat 31st? Does that clash with anything?

Maybe it should be a weekday? Like a Thursday or something? Isn't there a weekly movie night? Maybe we could steal that night and make it a Zapatista movie. We have to try and get a good Zapatista movie that the community activism working group didn't already show.


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if and when the coffee arrives we coudl do it in the day/even next week. i would like to talk about associating the zapatistas with mao etc? i don't want to get too serious but really the zapas are different to any other revolution/ary and this is why i feel i want to support them, (mao for instance was responsible(partly) for the death of millions.).......do we need to think about associating us with either a socialist/communist thing?

am i talking shit?

who knows.......i would quite like to keep they day purely zapatista!


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kitchen: £3 per bag of 250 grm coffee? yes?

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i think it could be but it could be a bit less? rip off merchants new leaf sell them packets for 3poond

could we do 2.50 or 2.70?

has it come yet?


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we the packets for 2.25 euros if we add 66% (the forest mark up?) and convert from euros to good olf sterlings its £2.56......


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2.50 for vollies?

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