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monthly meeting

Postby bill » Mon Feb 26, 2007 1:02 pm

at a few meetings of recent twas agreed that all working groups should have a monthly regular meeting which is set for a good amount of time ahead (months and months) and posted up on the reality board. this is so that new people know when it is and can expect it and come and get involved.or just for people who aren't in daily and don't use the bb. last minute meetings/small meetings etc are still tres cool.

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Postby Fils d'Abeille » Tue Feb 27, 2007 3:52 pm

okeydokes.

Are a substantial amount of interested peoples able to come in for a meeting on saturday, around 5 O'clock?
Heck, let's even organise one for the following month on whatever closest saturday there is to that.

Good? Good? Good?

Ooh... have the minutes from the meeting been posted up? Let me go check.
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Postby ravanwin » Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:42 pm

yes. please book meetings 5 months in advance.
see you fri. at 5
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Postby Fils d'Abeille » Tue Feb 27, 2007 10:21 pm

Ryan, you be confusing with misreading dates. I'll be busy selling cigarettes at 5 on friday. I'll only be able to make it saturday
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Saturdays are good for me

Postby graeme » Tue Feb 27, 2007 11:12 pm

I normally finish my kitchen shift at 5pm.
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Postby bill » Wed Feb 28, 2007 4:56 pm

i deeeply prefer a week night next week. monday evening next week? please anyone?
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Week nights(preferably after 6pm) are also good for me

Postby graeme » Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:35 am

The sooner we get things moving the better. Is there anything I can do in the meantime?
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Postby Fils d'Abeille » Thu Mar 01, 2007 11:50 am

I'm kinda at work and in class monday night.
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Postby lucky » Thu Mar 08, 2007 3:28 pm

Tues 13th's good for me.

Is this too far away? Second tues every month?

Just a suggestion.

We need to get this off the ground.

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Postby ravanwin » Thu Mar 08, 2007 4:44 pm

do it
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Postby Fils d'Abeille » Thu Mar 08, 2007 7:13 pm

yep, let's do tuesday. I'm good for then, anytime in the afternoon or evening. When were you thinking of?
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Postby bill » Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:36 pm

evening 8 o clock. deal
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Postby lucky » Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:26 pm

Okay then. WG meeting every second Tues of the month 8pm. Can we put this as a sticky at the top of this board, or is there a different/additional/more effective way of letting people know.

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Postby graeme » Fri Mar 09, 2007 2:15 pm

Tuesday at 8pm is good for me.
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Postby swithun » Wed Mar 14, 2007 3:24 pm

Present: Alex, Graeme, Nick B, Bill, Ryan, Swithun, Shannon

Volunteer agreement

Bill will write up volunteer agreement using old one as guide.
NB asked if this will be like instruction manual. Yes.
Shannon said that it has to have a legal aspect to cover our ass, especially for new volunteers.
Ryan expanded on this, mentioning health and safety, fire exits and procedure. We need a form for signing, and we have to store these forms.
Shannon said we could use a drawer in the kitchen for this.
NB chipped in that at his work, they use a book for recording the signing of similar forms. People liked the idea of a book instead of lots of forms. We will collect name, number and email of volunteers. This will be handy for contacting them and recording how many volunteers we have/get through.
Ryan and Shannon said that the guide should explain a bit about the cafe and include some basic kitchen information.

Night Manager agreement

Shannon had started rewriting such a document, but NMing has changed since then.
Ryan asked if we want to call it a contract? No seemed to be the consensus.
Shannon will get onto this, as it is already her Kitchen WG action point.
Alex wanted it to emphasise powers as well as responsibilities. You can throw people out when they are misbehaving.
There is a Night Forum on the BB, but as NB pointed out, it isn't used often enough.
Ryan said that NMs have the same power as KMs, except that they don't get paid, though they do get tips and a free food token. On the downside, NMs do have to sit through acts/events that they might not like. NMs shouldn't be arbitors of taste for the whole cafe. Bill wondered if we needed to mention this.
Although we are allowed by law to stay open until 2 and have everyone out by 3, NMs are only obliged to keep the cafe open until 11pm (when they can expect to get out themselves by 12.30) if there is an act on and enough volunteers. Acts can arrange in advance to run later, but without such an agreement, it is assumed that they will finish by 11.
Ryan wanted it mentioned that NMs should be extra nice (nicer than they are to customers) to performers. Give them drinks and some food. It doesn't have to be a burrito each, but something like a plate of nachos for a band.
Graeme asked about corkage. Shannon said that at one time it was the case that bands always got corkage. But now it is a discretionary matter. If it has been arranged with a KM, someone from Events WG or if the NM really likes the band, then they can get the corkage. It was thought that corkage was a nice gesture.

Stuff on table tops

At the last big volunteers meeting, it was decided that we would have a note kept on the tables explaining what the Forest was and what sort of things went on in it and how people could get involved.
Ryan said that we could find some of the sort of things they have in BK or Bean Scene for holding notes/menus on the tables.
Shannon said that there is a file on the office computer explaining what the Forest is. Ryan added that there is lots of disparate information floating around that can be used.
Bill seemed to be in a minority in wanting a very short note. Alex thought it would be good to have some nonsense added. Swithun wanted to make sure that the note would say 'pay corkage' in big letters.
NB will do this.

Morale boosting meal

As an alternative to loud boozeup parties, it was suggested at the last big volunteer meeting by Shannon to hold a big communal meal. This would be a Sunday afternoon thing. The idea was that people would bring their own food and people would make a donation so that money was raised for a good cause. This would help build links between the Forest and the community.
The details make it a bit more complicated. Alex asked whether the kitchen would be closed during these meals. Not necessarily - customers wanting Forest food/coffee could still buy stuff from the kitchen.
The volunteers party and a meal could be run alternate months, which seems like a good idea. Once a month for the party is a bit too often. Also, the parties are abused by freeloaders who don't contribute anything to the Forest.
Ryan is concerned about the money involved in such a meal. Will the Forest lose money, have to pay for the food, not take the donations/profits? Either people buy the food themselves and reimburse themselves from the donations. Or the Forest buys the food and takes some of the donations. Although it is not usual for other organisations to make money in the Forest space, if it was not too often and at definite times, this exception could be allowed and a good thing.
Nick B said we should have a trial meal on the 25th March. Shannon said that Forest food would be used and we would worry about the money some other time. Bill was still wondering who would cook.

It also came out during this discussion that people can't come into the Forest and shake tins for their causes.

Party

It seems to have been decided that the next party, held on the 6th April would feature karaoke. Swithun will look into prices for the equipment needed.
There will be a Japanese theme to this - Jane and Dai are working on this already.
Ryan thought we should have another meeting to plan this party and get a poster made (Jane?).

Some people are afraid to come

Apparently Bill has some most excellent friends who are really wussy and afraid to come to the Forest. Maybe if the volunteers and KMs treated the customers with more respect or as humans, then we would not frighten Bill's friends away.
It was agreed that we do get some really annoying customers who are probably the reason why other customers get treated badly.
This lead to a discussion on the paradox of treating customers well. It can be argued (by Ryan) that the faux sincerity one encounters in other establishments is offensive. Being genuinely rude can be the best way to treat customers as humans.
Some customers are confused by the fact that in the Forest, money doesn't buy respect. Volunteers have no external incentive to treat customers well, and they are not all motivated by a desire to be nice to people. Volunteers volunteer for many different reasons, and keeping the Forest open only indirectly depends on being nice to customers..
It was agreed again that there are some really annoying customers - they ask Alex what they should eat and then ignore his suggestions, or they ask Shannon for things that aren't on the menu. Swithun felt left out because no one has complained when he has been working.
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Postby Fils d'Abeille » Wed Mar 14, 2007 3:53 pm

it totally rocks being reduced to an acronym.

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Postby swithun » Wed Mar 14, 2007 4:26 pm

i couldn't remember how to spell your surname, so you started off as Nick B to distinguish you from all the other Nicks there are, and then when I was taking notes, it became NB.

I suppose you should be a SOB, ne's pas?
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Postby lucky » Mon Mar 19, 2007 12:35 am

I second that!

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Postby Shannon » Sun Mar 25, 2007 6:36 pm

So obviously a meal didn't happen today. Should we try and organise this soonish, or let it simmer for awhile?
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Postby Jane » Sun Mar 25, 2007 8:02 pm

hey, just to let you know that i probably will not be making posters/organising parties this month as i am currently in that world of degrees and exams and dissertations and pro-plus.

maybe you want to put that duty on the poster forum for someone else?

maybe swith and dai and gareth want to get together and talk Japanese schoolgurls?


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Postby swithun » Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:21 am

We were going to do that anyway.
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